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Scott Stapp: The Power of Grace
In the second part of our two-part interview, he talks about the incident, the power of grace, and about how he still needs prayer.
 


In the song "Dying to Live," the final track of his new solo album, Scott Stapp tells the story of how God used his own destructive choices to get his attention: "Had to go to hell to find my heaven / Forty feet I had to fall from grace / Everything's so clear when you've got one foot in the grave."

Stapp's leap over the balcony of his hotel penthouse should've killed him, he said, but instead, he suffered non-life-threatening injuries and according to his autobiography,Sinner's Creed, was discovered inexplicably by rapper T.I.

The incident looms large in Stapp's latest record, Proof of Life, as it served as a "no turning back" moment for him in his faith. In the second part of our two-part interview, he talks about the incident, the power of grace, and about how he still needs prayer. (Read part 1 here.)

You mention your fall from the balcony in Miami a couple of times in different songs. It seems like there's such symbolic power in that incident for you. Talk about that for a minute.

When I was a little boy I would lay in my bed at six or seven years old and I would beg God, "God, just turn my bedroom light off. If you just turn my bedroom light off, I will do whatever you want me to do. I'll be a missionary in Africa and I will live in the slums. Just prove yourself to me," which is think is something that's a staple of mankind, that doubt and then that need to have proof.

For me if I ever had any remaining questions or any doubt, that fall and surviving that fall removed all that forever. That was my bedroom light coming on. That was my burning bush moment where there's no denying. I cannot deny anymore.

There may be many, many reasons that science or doctors or whomever could try to mathematically or scientifically prove that yes, it was a 1 out of 2 billion chance that I landed the way that I did and survived, but to me that's God.

The thing that I love about Job chapter 33 is it talks about if there are others interceding on your behalf, God will rob you from the pit. God will rob you from the grave. I'm reading that and I'm like, "See, I knew I was special. I knew God had a plan for me," but then the next verse after that says, "But don't think you're special. God does it all the time."

We can get in the mentality sometimes when God does powerful things that He must have some big plans for me and I did wrestle with that during that first year of it happening, but the same call that is on me is on anyone else who loves God and who loves Christ and that is just to share about His love and His grace and what He came to this world to do.

That's all it really means, but for me it was a total alleviation of doubt and question, which really ignited a fire within my soul.

I just think of the verse that says God works all things out for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. And wow, that includes our mistakes. He can even use that. It's just mind blowing.

That's the power of grace. That's the power of redemption and we read that over and over and over again in God's word. The people God would pick were far, far, far from the perfect man or the perfect woman. Murderers, deceivers, people who did so many things that today would have them in prison, but they're patriarchs in the Christian community. They're patriarchs in the Word of God. They're heroes.

Then Christ comes and who does He associate with? The tax collectors, the prostitutes, the poor, everyone that the world threw away or throws away, that's who I find that my God makes the cornerstone. God is, and Jesus is in the business of taking messes and turning them into messages and taking people that nobody else wants and turning them into heroes, pillars of the church.

That's what my God does. I experienced it on such a profound level because I was in this world and the world was eating me alive and I was about as far removed at a certain period in my life from anything associated with God or the church or anything Christian that it could be easy for anyone to say, "What would God want to do with this guy or have anything to do with this guy?"

There are so many people out there in the world that look at themselves and they start to get into the mindset of, "I'm not good enough, so why even try?" That's when grace comes in and that's when God comes in and says, "You're a king. I've got so much planned for you," and for me those plans don't have to be to save the world or become the biggest evangelist or preacher or big huge rock star, big this or whatever.

It started with me with God saying, "Why don't you try helping some other drunk guy that's trying to get through the same things you're trying to get through right now and we'll start from there." I did that for years and basically got to the place where nothing else mattered and that's when God really began to work in my life and began to give me songs again. He began to rebuild my foundation.

In the midst of coming to the end of yourself and really coming to terms with your choices during this whole process, what message has God spoken to you? What has He said to you about you?

That I'm loved and that I didn't do anything necessarily in certain situations to deserve the things that I've experienced in my life—in terms of being born into a home of abuse and violence and other things. Also that I am—I don't know how this comes out—but I am good enough to accept God's love.

It's not about everything I'm supposed to do and striving and perfection. It's just about accepting that love and then letting that love transform your heart. Once you accept that love, it can't do anything but transform you and it's not anything that you can work at or do and all that stuff is good. All that stuff is good to get yourself into going to church and reading the word and spending that time with God. All that stuff is great, but there's nothing that I can do except just accept God's love and let God do the work and make life less about me and more about Him.

Because every time that it becomes about me, that's when the problems start. I found that just accepting His love brings a peace and a joy and a whole different worldview and perspective on life. It enables me to have peace throughout that storm, and that's all I've ever been looking for my entire life was just some peace.

I'm still learning about how to articulate it, but that's what it does. It makes sense out of things that don't make sense. Even if you don't understand it or ever get an answer, everything just begins to make sense and that's what it's doing in my life.

How can our community be praying for you?

Just continue to pray for strength and for protection. I'm out there and I still put myself in the world and exposed to things and still have struggles and things that I wrestle with as a sinner and just pray that God continues to give me strength for each day to make the right decision and the right choices and continue to honor Him in the best that I can and in everything I do and just be less about me and more about Him.

Editor-in-Chief Marcus Hathcock has been a newspaper reporter, an editor and a church staff member. He's also been involved in opera, acappella, a CCM group and now is a songwriter and the worship leader at his home church in the Portland, Ore. area. Follow his journey at www.mheternal.com.

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